The In-Between | Ep. 7

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That space where you’re not who you were…

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

This conversation really took a dark tone this morning. It's so dark.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Welcome to Worth the Walk, where two sisters chat about generations raising kids in family life with honesty, heart, and plenty of laughs. No perfection here, people, just real conversation as we walk it all out together. Let's get started. And once again, I cannot state how happy I am to see you. Good morning, indeedy. Oh, where are we going with that? I haven't called you that yet. Oh my. Just flew off the tongue. Park it. We'll come back to the D and the D, all right? Remember I was going to start everything up? It's a beautiful day. Listen, it's warm. Uh, you should have seen the fog this morning. Not every day can have sunshine, Clotta. Well, it can. Sunshine in your mind. Sunshine in your heart. You bring the sun. It doesn't need to be in the sky. You bring the sunshine. I do. Yes, you do. I live for the sunshine. So, anyways, um, I can now actually see the trees. This morning the fog was so thick. Uh, did you see the movie The Fog from like the 80s? I think so. Oh my lord. So I had that conversation. It's a scary one, right? Oh, yeah. It's a scary one. Yeah, yeah. So, anyways, uh Nicole Kidman. Oh my gosh, I think you're right.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I did see this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Oh my lord. I forgot it was her. And it's the fog, it's what I had this morning. And uh, you know, I had the fear of the people coming out of the fog to kill me.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

I had fog, but mine was more of a like, I think it's like a air pressure head type of thing. Oh, you were foggy. Fog I was foggy, yes. I sometimes when the air pressure changes, my my could it have anything to do with the very lovely evening you had last night? Oh, I had a great evening. Gosh, it was fun. And and could you have gotten a tad foggy from that particular? Maybe, but I mean we weren't, it wasn't like we were out whooping it up. We went we had dinner in a movie. Yeah. And Charles, we had date night. I if I can, can I just talk a little bit about it? Because it's a huge plug for a really um fabulous movie called Little Lorraine. Uh Andy Hines, I'm thinking if that's the director's name. I'm trying to think if that's his name, the guy who directed it. Andy Hines, yeah. Uh so Adam Baldwin wrote a song called Lighthouse and Little Lorraine, and then there's a screenplay, and the movie was is based basically on this song. Fantastic. Um I'm familiar with Adam Baldwin's music only because I've listened to a lot of it, but uh haven't seen him live.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

He is a singer from Nova Scotia, and he's actually exceptionally well because you and I listened to it on our lovely little date we had out with Sam.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah, so we went to go see that movie. It was screening in uh Cape Breton. So there were a few spots that was playing Friday, Saturday, some showtimes, and then Halifax had a showtime. They had like one in Halifax, and I tried to get tickets last week and it was sold out. And then I went to check again like Wednesday or Thursday, and I was like, oh my goodness, they added extra showtimes in Halifax. So Charles and I went to go see that. But first we went out for dinner and it was it's Burger Week in Halifax. Oh, you stop it. Oh you didn't drop me a little note to say it's burger week. Charles dropped that one on me late yesterday. So we're like, let's find somewhere to go. Yeah, we tried a few spots. It's obviously very popular because we ended up going to three restaurants to try and get a place to sit down and it wasn't possible. Was bumping in in Halifax last night. So that's fabulous. We ended up getting a burger at LaRouge, which we've never been to. Super cool spot. In the daytime at night, I'm afraid it could be a little might be a little scary. Different story at nighttime. It's it's is it is it for a different crowd? It looks like a nightclub, like a funky nightclub, because everything inside is all very dark and like black upholstery and red lighting.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Um so during the day, kind of a funky little spot.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

At night, I'm thinking maybe, maybe nightclub vibes. I don't know. But we were in and out pretty quick, ate our burger and got the movie. Great night overall.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

It was great night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

And the movie was good. It was excellent.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Oh, excellent.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Excellent. Yeah, I recommend. I don't know where people are going to be able to get that movie soon. I think once it's left the theaters, maybe it'll be maybe hopefully like Crave.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Well, it'll be streaming on something. Yeah, Crave, I'm sure. Every single movie's streaming on something. 100%. There you go. Yeah, somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Anyway, that's my little plug for Little Lorraine.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

That sounded fun. I've lost the complete train of thought. I know I talked about the fog, and the fog led to something else, which led to something. You started off with Didi, and we have no idea this crowd doesn't know what a Didi is. So we'll touch on that in a few seconds. So uh we got a lot to talk about today. Um, we're going to leap into our true segment in a little while, but uh this morning we wanted to touch on a few things that we did. So, I mean, it was a busy week. I it went by so fast. It was Friday, and I kept thinking to myself, it's Wednesday. I mean, and basically I was out in my yard almost every single minute of it. Oh, that's great trying to uncover my daffodils and tulips. I climbed down to the riverbank and I pulled because we put up our new fishing chair, so we got out there. And we've got we've had the pole in every single day this week. We've had the pole in. Oh, excellent. I know, I know, it's fabulous. No bites just yet. But we had the pole in every single day. But um What are you baiting with? Right now, liver. So I went down to Rick's bait shop and they're not open. But when I was there, there was quite a few fisher people, because it was women and men, both putting their boats in the water. And I said, Where did you get your baits? And they said, Listen, we didn't have any. We haven't got any baits, so we're using liver. I went, Okie dokie, I'm gonna go up to Foodland and get myself some liver. So that's what uh that's what we did. We've got the liver in the freezer. Okay. Yeah, so that's what we got on the line. Um, I asked John, what about uh chicken hot dogs? Yeah, that that didn't go over. So I just threw it out there, right? They got some, it was in the freezer, whatever. I thought it was popular amongst all the bass fishers out there, out there of the world. Chicken hot dogs. Yeah, don't do it. Okay, it was like this and it popped into my head. I thought it might have been a thought. So then I decided I there's these huge birch trees that are down on the bank. So where the fish fallen down? Oh, yeah, they've fallen. They've I'm gonna assume years. Like they didn't fall in the one and a half year we've lived here, right? So I was down over the bank trying to pull these things up. And the tree caught at? Yes, yes, these so you're seeing I'm visual. You're following the story. So I get down there and I'm pulling them up and everything. And of course, it's clay down there, and it's been raining for a lot of time. And the boots that you lost last year, I'm pretty sure, are down in there somewhere. They're they they've swam up and down that river. They're somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. Listen, they could be somewhere in the Bahamas by now. Like they really, someone's finding a boot in the Bahamas and going, wow, look at this boot. This is fabulous. So I went down and I I got this big birch tree and I'm I'm carrying it, and I got it under my arm and around my leg. So by the time I got to the other side where I was going to put it in a wagon and pull it up to this, now of course I've I'm like the sweat's just coming from one end of me to the other, right? My back hurts. My that's a different thing. And I looked down and from my ankle to underneath my arm, I've got about three inches of that clay everywhere you can possibly everywhere you can think. It's over my coat and so on. My shirt underneath. It was under my and I wore gloves to do this whole thing. It was actually got through the gloves. It's under my fingernails. Oh, God. Yeah, say goodbye to all of that clothes. I know it's just never coming out. And so I figured I was that dirty. What the hell? I'm going back in for more now. I figured, you know what? I mean, once you're coated with my like what's the point. It's like when you're wet. Right. When you're wet, may as well just have fun. That's right. You're not. You're getting wet. You're not drying off anytime soon. That's right. And it was beautiful though. Like the weather was really warm. So, anyways, I got uh three birch. I'm gonna say logs, but let's be realistic. So the rest of the world out there understands. I can lift maybe 15 pounds tops, right? So they're not logs, but they're pretty thick wood pieces. So that's what I did. And then of course I had to rake all of those gardens. So the entire fence from up there to down there and the entire back of the property had to do that whole stretch. Oh baby. So I got I got my workout in this week and it was fun. But um I slept good.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Did I sleep good in the end?

SPEAKER_01 8:56

There's nothing like a great sleep.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

I'll do like really exertion.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Oh, yeah, when you just worked outside. I know. But it's been so hard to light the fire because it's been so wet that thank goodness we weren't red as a province. Diss to check the burn. Diss. It's a diss. That wasn't a compliment, that was a diss.

unknown 9:16

I caught that. I caught that.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Alrighty, off you run. What'd you do this week?

SPEAKER_02 9:21

I mean it's a bit of a blur. I have to really stop hard and think. What did I do? I mean, I worked all week, so I was in the office, but um Oh, I painted my rec room. Oh, yes. Right, right. So I'd get home from work and I went down and I finally finished that. And I'm gonna save a little bit of that for our new segment that we're gonna introduce later. Oh, perfect, perfect. We've got a new segment uh called It's a surprise.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Let's not let's not reveal it. We're leaping ahead of ourselves. Let's not even talk about what this don't give it all up now, Sherry. What am I doing? That's what we did as teens. Don't give it up. Oh God. Maybe you. I was a good kid. You were a good kid? I'm really not. I was good at a lot of stuff. Right. Okay, now this feeds into Didi.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

There she is.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

There she is.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

There's Dee Dee. All right, I was just saying. You already said it. What did you say that for this morning? Did you have an old age moment or what? Yeah, I just think I honestly used to call you Dee Dee more than Claudette. Honestly, that I was only ever called Dee Dee at home. I I I'm very rarely in my own home with mom and dad, and my sisters, my nephews, it didn't matter. Everybody was introduced to me as Dee Dee. I think I started it. When I was a baby. Yeah, because you couldn't say Claudette. So I'd call you Dee Dee. So really I own it. I own it. Yeah. So nobody could say D the Claudette, clearly, right? So Dee Dee. And then you came along, and then I was Dee Dee. And that was it. So every time anybody speaks to me and I hear Dee Dee, I know it's my family. It's either a a niece or a nephew, or it's you guys. That was it. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

And when my children refer to you, they only call you Dee Dee. That's correct. Where were you at Dee Dee's? Are you going to Dee Dee's? Is Dee Dee coming over? Yes. Are Dee Dee and John coming over? It's Dee Dee. Yes. We don't remember. There's nothing like that. So but I haven't called you Dee Dee in quite a while.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

It's been forever. So when you said it, I was just like rolled off my tongue. I was like, but the butta. Where are you going with this? Who are you telling all our secrets to? No, that's good. Yeah, I know. I love it. And um, you know, but I've never, I don't, my nobody in my side, on John's side of the family calls me has ever used the word Dee Dee at all. Right. And it caught my kids off by surprise when they were young and they'd hear it and they'd go, I remember. Who's that? I said, that's me. Why are they calling you that? Why are they calling you Didi? Yeah. Where did that come from? Why? That's awesome. No, I love that though. I I I love that nickname. So I do too. Yeah, I do love it. Yeah. Always Dee Dee to me. Yeah. And one of the other biggest things that I had that was fun this week was uh reliving the stuff with Joshua now that he's home, right? And he says, When I come, can I do this again? Can I come? Can I do that again? So uh that was fun this week, kind of making sure he got home safe. And you know, how you how you adjusting to being back home. Without me. Without me. How are you without me? How you hanging on without your grandma? Are you okay? Yeah. So that was uh that was fun this week as well.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Yeah. So and I mean I think that's about it for the big stuff. I didn't really do anything else big. John and I got our wills all done. So that was good. That's a an important thing to get done. Oh, I know. We had to get that. That was that was big because I mean, when was the last time you you wrote up your wills to be?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

We did recently, and only because we were doing some other things. So we kind of bundled up a bunch of things together and like let's check all this off.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah, so that's what we did. And these are hard conversations, but they're so necessary. Yeah, important. And I mean, you can't uh you can't skip over anything. And I mean it's gotta be true, honest conversations. Like this podcast, true, honest, you know, don't don't butter it all up kind of conversations. But our will is like I mean, I was down and dirty to the point where John said, like, am I killing you when we get home? Like, what like are you killing me? Like, what's going on here?

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Thousand ways to die. I had to tell the story. It's like when we were our kids were little and we'd always have fundraisers. So there was always a fundraiser for ball. There was always a fundraiser for hockey, there was always a fundraiser for school, there was a fundraiser for something. Of course it was. Every single fundraiser we had was an auction. And one of the most popular items was a will. Like, come see us to get your will done. It was people were always bidding on that.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

It was like, Jesus, a lot of people like they're pricey, it's an expensive thing to get done. It's worth every penny to ensure that your children don't pick up the tab for your death. I know that that sounds morbid, but it could not be more true. So that was the biggest part of our conversation. Holding things up so things can be probate. Yes. So that sort of prevent probate as much as you can. Exactly. Absolutely. Yeah, it's not a shout out to Will writing out there, but it was a big one for us to the point where I mean it was it was quite funny because uh part of my will was what I want should I become disabled or if I get incapacitated. Incapacitated. Yes, correct. So and I have a big part of that will very well wrote up, of which now I've given to my kids, and my kids are gonna have it. Because I I've got specific instructions to the boy work job, which is roll it as I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

No, pull the pluck. Oh yeah, I was like, No, I want you got to make sure my eyebrow hair.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

I don't want yeah, I gotta take that little hair that always grows out.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

That's to come out. I want my toenails to be my fingernails, but my toenails are to be mowed. Oh no, Claudia's just like, uh nope, unplug me.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Unplug me. That was it. That's all I said. No, I had I had details. Like I so morbid. It's that's what John said. Morbid, but it's not. I just don't want them, my children, to have to go through this intense burden of trying to make right decisions. And are they doing it out of, you know, you know, youth guilt type of thing, right? So as a child, I have to not do this, or are they doing it because they think that's what I want? It takes the question out. Is that what mom wants? Well, it's written down if what her so real firm instructions, mom and dad. So that's it. So that's what was our conversation.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

What? I mean, I don't know if we have time for this story today, but I have let's do it. I, when we first moved into our home, that story.

unknown 15:44

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

That is a great story. Yeah, it is. You're doing it. I'm putting I'm picking my coffee up. Okay. So we Charles and I are have the home that we live in now, it has been over 10 years that we've lived there. And the home itself has been in the community for well, it was built in 62, so a long time. And the family that built the home, we know, just think the world of them. They're dear, dear people, and their children and grandchildren are also um acquaintance friends and acquaintances. So I'm actually very good friends. Paula is married to Dave, and Dave grew up in that house and they had five children. So there's many stories of the home, and we know that in the community, um, Morris was the grandfather, and he would have lived in the back part of the house. His wife, Emma, passed before him. And then and then Morris had passed, and that's that story. We move into the home fast forward however many years, 35 years. We move in, we're cleaning up under the deck, and Charles says, Sherry, I need you to come and look at something. So I'm all excited, thinking like, oh, we found treasure under our deck. Nope. Nope, nope. Uh he said, Don't first of all, don't panic.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

I don't think I want you to start with anything. The second my husband or anybody says to me, No, don't panic, the very first thing I do is lose my mind. Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

And then the next sentence is, I don't think anyone's actually buried here. I know, I don't think there's a body. But there's a headstone placed neatly under our deck. And on the headstone is Emma's name. Okay. So we know we're familiar. We know who she is. So it doesn't make it any more comfortable. I mean, so we we deduced that it is she passed first and had a headstone. And then what they decided was to get a double headstone once Morris passed. That was what we deduced. We came to that conclusion. So we we anyway, we did try to give you the headstone back, Dave. I know Paula's listening. So I'm just gonna say I did try, but now we're respectfully keeping it where it is. We haven't moved it, it's there. It's a lovely piece of granite, and it is a lovely. We're sending all kinds of good vibes. I think Emma brings us good vibes to the home.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Well, that's wonderful. Not that she's physically there. No, I know. Thank goodness for that one. But I'm gonna tell you, I walk downstairs and see a headstone. I am up, I'm out, bags are packed. Get the sign on the front yard, would you, John? Because we gotta go. Yes. We gotta go.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Anyway, I have a bit of an attachment to it now. I'm a little attached. I do. You know, I feel like it's a part of the the whole structure. Um, yeah. This conversation really took a dark turn this morning. We had a straight line on this conversation.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

It's so dark. Oh listen, you and I have not had a straight conversation since we started this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Oh my gosh. Two drunk drivers. So we're like, real left. Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Okay. All right, okay. I've got the tears left. I'm done. Okay. So now we're gonna go into a segment. Do you want to uh tell us about any type of a segment we're going to do? Or um okay, one pause? Okay. Yep, I can pause. Well, he's gonna cut this all out anyway. Uh Dan, pause from here and we'll tell you when we're gonna start again.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Did you want to talk about your your in-between though?

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

I want to do in between first and then do the segment. Yeah. Okay, perfect. I'm gonna do the segment at the end. Okay, all right. And it's called the One Step Better. God darn it, I couldn't think of that. Like the segment name, and I'm like, did we decide to call it? Oh, yeah. One step better. All right, darn it.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Okay, I need to clean it so they start better. So bad. Okay.

unknown 19:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Dan, we can start from here. Alrighty. So now that we've taken all these drunken turns, left, right, and forward and everywhere else, let's talk about today. All right. So the the focus on today's conversation was the in-between. And you said to me, Well, what is that? Like, what are we gonna do, Claudia? What's the in-between? And as a mother, we begin, and then when it's all done and we pass away, it's the end. And then the children grow up, it's at the beginning. And then when it's just you and your husband left there, that's fine. But there's an in-between. Like when they have become adults and married.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

What's happening? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

I'm liking this, though. Keep going. Don't know. That's all right to get emotional about it. It's okay. Where did that come from? Because I think you're in it. I am. Yeah. Okay. Give me a second. You're in the in-between, which is completely okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

No, but I'm gonna say this is the struggle part. Like, who are you? And I don't I'm asking who's not not who's sherry, but when they leave.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

So I think just too. I know. No, it's not at all.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

I think it's I think it's beautiful, honestly, because you're you're tapping into this. I think it's because it's raw and it's fresh, and you you just had a visit, okay, with your adult daughter and your grandson. And I think they're seeing you for the first time in a bit. So you're you and you've gone through a bit of a transformation since the last time they saw you. Okay. So I think that's what you're feeling.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

If I can we I wrote it out for you a bit. I don't I I'd probably do better if I had read it instead of trying to just jump into a very heartfelt conversation. Right? I mean, they're not here. So it leaves like this little empty spot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

I I feel that. I think women want to be known as more than just mothers, too. So when you're in this early part of I mean, let's jump even before you become a mom. So You know, you you have your adolescent years and all those important informative years where you're you're learning, you're, you know, in your mid, you know, tweens or your teen, and then you're an early adolescent. And I mean I have friends who didn't get married till much later in life than I did. So they had established a huge core part of themselves that is a part of their life that is very important to them before they even met their partner or had children. They established sort of this group of friends, uh, either a career or not a career, or their loves, or what they excel at. Someone, you know, had done exceptionally well at sport. She's competing at a high level. Then she met someone, got married, and had children, and then she's discovering about, okay, I love my sport. How do I get back into this again? My body's not the same as it was before I had children. I'm a little older now. Who am I? I identified by excelling at sport, but now I'm, you know, I'm excelling in something else, but it's not, I love that competitive edge. So she's trying to, you know, wanting to compete, but yet trying to find out her balance. Okay. So, and then when your children are grown and gone, you have to almost like redirect because it's, you know, she has a competitive edge. She wants to do really well. What is that sport now? Yeah. She can't downhill ski as fast as she was doing before, but she really wants to do something else.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

So taking upside. And for me, uh I married young. I had my children young. Well, I say young, 25 and 30, but young. Um, I was absorbed with them for 30 years, right? I mean, well, 40 years, right? Just completely absorbed with my family and my life and this thing. And then we came here and I've discovered that I like who I am. I like it a lot. I like where I'm going. I like the attention I'm giving to me. But then there's this little guilt, that little voice in the back. You said, Oh no, you're supposed to be a mom, you're supposed to be a grandma, you're supposed to be with them, you're supposed to and I said, Well, don't really have too much fun. And then when they come, you think, Oh my gosh, I need them here. And then they leave and you think, Oh, this is nice, this quiet, and this beautiful and this space and my own. And then you think, Well, I want them back. And then you just teeter, teeter back and forth. So I th so when you said, What are we gonna do? I said, Oh, I'm a little bit in between. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

And I feel that. I feel it too. I'm I'm just starting with my in-between. Yes. Um, I think uh, and I mean you've been to my home. My home, I my lifestyle is not for everybody. I'm just gonna flat out say it. There's a lot of people around. And honestly, we've had some comments of people who oh, I'll be kind. They just make comments about how many vehicles are in your driveway, like how many people live there anyway. Yeah. And you know, guess what? A none of these wax pistolas. No, I'm just kidding. I'm gonna like I said, I'm gonna be kind, put my kind face on. We have a lot of people on our house.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

We'll pull up and go, oh my gosh, nobody's there. You pull up and say, Oh, there we go. I gotta think of what he said. The hotel's full today. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, no, no room at the do drop in. That's right. Sorry, you can you can do drop in, but you cannot stay. Um, yeah. You gotta go home, but you can't stay here. Um, yeah, there's there's a lot of like a lifestyle, it's super, super busy. And then we go from this like roaring house people fun. And then I well, I use that word fun. I don't know where that came from. It's sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. I'm just gonna be honest. It's full and loud. And then it's very, very quiet. And Charles and I are just now, I mean, our kids are older, 27, 25, 20, and 19. And we are just now starting to take those quiet moments and be like, ah, wow, this is interesting. I kind of like it. And we only get a little taste of the I think I like it, and then everyone comes back again. And it's like, okay, we're good. We'll we'll park that for a hot minute, and then we're this is life, so we're just gonna keep going. And we love that too.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

But the in between when it's real, right? I have no one coming back, right? That's right, sweetheart. I know.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Okay, Dee Dee. Oh, stop it. I know it's been um it's been a year and a bit that you know you've been here and you your lifestyle when you were in Oshawa, I would put it on comparison to what I what my house is. There were there were no down moments. There were no down moments. So I see that case, but it really wasn't. Like I'm I joke too. I mean, honestly, people think gosh, I live for it. It's not like her kids. I love my moments when my kids are. When my children are there, they're not only my kids, they bring their friends and I'm love their friends. Tomorrow I've got this. I'm so excited because Sophie and her four roommates are coming to stay. They're gonna stay for a couple of nights before they head out on a big trip.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

And it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Can't wait.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Super excited from that home that everybody wants to come to. I love it, right? And that's what I want here. I want everybody to come, right? But I love John Lee. No, I'm just don't hurry. But I mean, but I love John and I. Like this our our quiet and our garden and our puzzles and our movies and our our walks and our flowers. I mean our podcast. Our podcast. I mean, I love it. Yes. So when we ask what we want to talk about, it's the in between.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

And so I know I get emotional, but it's just I love my children, I love my home. I'm stuck in between. I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Yeah. And I'm all finished with the crying, but you know. Are you are you? No, I really'm absolutely lying. But anyways, I mean, and you miss your grandchildren. Like you have no idea, like that that heart. I know they're gonna come and visit, and I'll have everything for them. But I do love fishing by myself by the river. I know you're laughing, but I do enjoy my fishing, so shh shut the front door. So, but I mean, I love sitting down there and that quiet space is is pure heaven. I mean, it's absolutely beautiful. And then I compare it to when Joshua was there and Mike was there and the dog was barking, and you said, Well, that's kind of pure heaven too. That was beautiful. And it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

It's okay to find joy in both of those.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

I think it's I want to open up the door for every other woman out there who's stuck in between. Say it's okay, right? You can have this moment where you cry, and then you think, well, I get to get up and do whatever I want at this next moment, whether loud or quiet or whatever it happens to be, and and I'd be very, very happy in it. I've created a space in my my office here that's all mine, that holds everything to me, and I'm so thrilled with it, and it brings me unbelievable joy. So and at the same moment, I want to feel the same joy when my children are here, and I'd love to have them here.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

I agree. And I think I just want to touch a little bit about this in-between moment. It's also opening up space for you, Claudette, to find parts of yourself you want to expand on. Okay. So uh I think this in-between as hard and as difficult as some moments are because and you're torn and you're struggling, obviously, because you you love what you've what you're building and what you have built. But you're also a little sad because you're missing those parts that are fulfilling to you, right? Your family and your grandbabies. Yeah. But I think finding it's also listening to those quiet little moments. I know last week we talked a little about being in tune to those you know, cues or whatever, but I think sitting quietly and listening to your own internal voice and your cues about what's next for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Or finding out who you are. Like really, I mean, I there was uh what was it a couple of weeks ago? I said, I I just I'm not quite sure like who uh I am. Like what's what's the what's the thing that I am? And I'm finding it, you know, pretty pretty uh quickly over the last few weeks. I mean, I'm finding great joy in a lot of things that I'm doing. And I I found them on my own. Like I I I didn't uh I didn't need someone to direct me or I didn't piggyback off of somebody to find something. I found them because I liked them and they're giving me immense joy. And I'm finding out how to own who I am as a person without absorbing somebody else's up or down or somebody else's opinion or somebody else's thought of what I should do. And I'm I'm only just finding all of those things. Those are that's all very new for me. That's not I would always want to be something for somebody, and now I'm being something for me. And that's that in between. And it's just like I'm 62 this year, right? And I'm just finding out who that is. So there's great hope out there for no matter how old you are to find out whatever in between is. Never, never too old. Never too old for never. Wow. Now I've shown the world my soft side. We can't have that happen again. I'm kidding. I disagree. I'm really kidding. I mean, this podcast is about being as honest as you could be. Yes. And when I talk about my children, it really it chokes me right up. And sometimes it chokes me up with joy, like just great pride. I can't give you like that immense pride I have, right? In in both my children and all three of my grandchildren. I mean, it just bubbles you up till you just want to pop, right? And then, of course, you've got great sadness because they're not right there that I can't reach out and touch. And then, you know, there's uh tears of anger, you know, tears of anger and joy and sadness. So I have tears all the time, but yeah, they're not always for sadness.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

I'm all I'm here for the crying.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Are you really I am? Are you gonna be Oprah?

SPEAKER_02 31:55

I'm here or get it. Yeah, cry.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Cry cry. Do it. It was our first podcast. You stare right at me. Cry. I'm all about the tears. It'll get you, so don't you worry. It'll be there. Don't you worry. All right, let's let's kind of go into our segment. I mean, I just want first of all, everybody out there, I would like you to understand that I'd love to hear from you. Is there an in-between you have? Are you currently sitting someplace and you just think, I'm a great mother, but I want to be something else, right? Or are you coming to the end of something? Um, have they finished uh grade school and they're going into high school? There's an in-between right there because you used to be the one they always needed, and now you're not. Now you're just kind of an embarrassment if you talk too loud, right? Or maybe you're the one who's they finished, they graduated. They graduated this year. They had their prom, they had the big dress, the big suit, and they're packing their bags and can't wait to get into the car to go to their dorm or their apartment or whatever it is. Maybe they're gonna go overseas for a year. Maybe they're gonna see Australia. It's uh there's an in-between that you just don't know how to handle. How do you put your feet on the ground and stand tall and firm and strong? And then you have to figure out okay, well, what am I now? Right now that they've done that. So tell me about your in-betweens. I'd love to hear it.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

Yeah. So we'd like to introduce a segment. So each week, Claudette and I are going to try something new, either together or separately, individually. And it could be something about trying a new hobby, or we're going to tackle a project that we've been procrastinating about. And the segment is called One Step Better.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

I love it. One step better.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

One step better.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

And we're going to challenge everybody out there to be one step better too.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

That's right, each week.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Yes, we are.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

And we're going to report back. We're going to have a little story about what we decided to tackle on this week or what we decided to do, and then the results or the outcome and where we're going with that. So one step better.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

All right. And this week, starting tomorrow evening, we've signed up for water zoomba. Water Zumba. That's right. If you can visualize this, people, we're going to do water zoomba. We are doing water zoomba. I know. Yeah. One step better. That's it. That's it. That's it. So, and I've also I'm gonna add to it, this is you and I. My other part is I have all those flowers downstairs. They've all cracked their seeds and they're all kind of getting the the the they've perked. That's not the right gardening. Sprouted. Sprouted is the correct term.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Thank you so much with that much. That's what I'm here for.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Sprouted. Okay. And I'm going to put them into their little containers. I got these little uh uh peat moss things. Oh and and I'm putting them all in, and I've got hundreds of them. So that's a little task I'm doing, and I'm gonna take a picture of them when I'm dog done. I'm gonna send them, put it up on our Facebook and our Instagram so you can all see it. But our challenge this week is we're doing Zumba to be get one step better. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

I know. Because here's the thing, everybody, you have to take one step at a time to get better at anything. It doesn't matter what it is. Well, I mean, unless you're that person who just is naturally good at everything they do.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

And even then, they're not naturally good at it. They had to start somewhere. They took one step and they either realized that they were at it or they didn't. That's right. And I'm telling you right now, for this walk that we've got, this journey that we're having. Oh, come on, let's tell the funny joke about when we went to our mystic thing yesterday and it was so good. And um and uh Lori tease ahead of a complete blanket. Lori Brown, Lori Brown.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

We we met uh my friend Lori Brown at the Mystic Fair. And as soon as she saw, she's like, the walkers, the walkers are here. Your walkers are here. I turned around and I was like, Oh my Lord, no, no, no, no, no, we're not we're not calling you that. She's like, no, no, no, you don't understand. When I was at school, like grading school, we and I had that same experience. I don't you I don't know if you would have or not. No, okay, I've never had that. So when I went to, especially elementary school, you were always separated by the bus or the bus people and the walking people. And they'd always say, Walkers, walkers now, time to come to the front and walkers can leave now. So as soon as Lori heard the term walker, she associated it with buses with the school term of like I'm a walker.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

So she was all excited about that. I said, Walker. I said, if you're gonna be a walker, put your arms out in front of you and just go, oh shout out to Lori this morning, anyways. I thought that was funny when I met her. Anyways, everybody, I can't thank you enough. This has been an exceptional day. Um, understand that we've got honest conversations, and from time to time, every one of our emotions will show. I love laughing with you, and I just don't mind crying with you either. I do try to keep that to a minimum. Sherry knows me very well that I like to bottle that up until it just pops. So, anyways, here you go, Cher. Take us out.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Thanks so much for spending this time with us today. We're really grateful you chose to be part of our conversation. We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts, your stories, or just say hi. You can reach us at worth the walkpodcast at gmail.com, on Instagram at WorthThewalkPodcast, or on Facebook at WorthThewalk Podcast. And your messages truly mean the world to us. And be sure to join us each week as we continue walking through life together, one conversation at a time. You can listen wherever you get your podcast at Spotify, Apple Music. Until next time, keep walking because it's worth it. Thank you so much, take care, everybody.